Sunday, July 03, 2005

New Group Blog - Members Needed

So here's the deal... Is there any city in this great country of ours that is hated by the right wing quite as much as San Francisco? Sure, they hate Hollywood when it's convenient, but they still watch movies. And they hate New York City most of the time except when they need to exploit 9/11. But nothing gets a right winger riled up quite as much as people from this foggy city by the bay. Go into a political chat and mention you're from here and get ready for a whole bunch of replies ranging from the relatively benign "well that figures" to the wishes for earthquakes or terrorist attacks to kill all of us "anti-American" liberals, to the downright protesting-a-little-bit-too-much-if-you-know-what-I-mean homophobic "well I hope you get AIDS from your boyfriend and die" type of hate.

Well I think that it's high time that we big bad liberal San Franciscans embrace their insults, and shove it right back in their faces. That's the idea of this blog. They've lowered the bar on political discourse, so it's time to get down in the mud with them, take off the gloves, and sling some shit! There are plenty of serious political blogs out there, but this is not going to be one of them. Sure, we will discuss plenty of serious issues and help point good people toward actions they can take to help slow the crawl toward theocratic fascism under the Bush regime. But we'll do it while serving up heaping helpings of comedy, sarcasm, snark and satire.

But I can't do this alone. So I'm looking for a few good bloggers.

Want to join this blog? Please drop me an email. I want to represent all of the diversity that this city has to offer. You know who you are. I'm talking about gays, hippies, lesbians, Asians, Latinos, transgendereds, African Americans, Wiccans, goths, Anarchists, ravers, Greens, pagans, freaks, geeks, and otherwise uniques. The only requirements are that you live in San Francisco (or closeby in the bay area - they really hate Berkeley too!), you're a lefty, you're a decent writer, and most importantly you can be funny as hell. We will blog anonymously under pseudonyms that embrace the names that right wingers call us. That's why I'm posting as "Liberal Traitor." Please send along a $1000 application fee an introduction telling me a little something about why you'd be a good addition to this blog, and a writing sample or a link to an existing blog you have.

If we're going to live in a city that is a lightning rod for right wing hate, let's represent!


Blogger Billy Jones said...

Good luck in your efforts. Our local blogging groups like and our Meetup group have brought us nationwide attention and power with the local press and politicians.

7/04/2005 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger malfouka said...

As a bay area (berkeley/albany) feminazi, I salute your efforts! I personally have just learned to celebrate my liberal culture of death--I am no longer closeted but out and proud!

7/05/2005 12:59:00 AM  
Blogger Liberal Traitor said...

Hey Malfouka, we have an opening for a Berkeley Feminazi here if you're interested

7/05/2005 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have fun drowning when the big one comes.

Oh, you're all so smart and full of yourselves, you must really be happy, right? LOL!

7/05/2005 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger Liberal Traitor said...

Alright, just barely a few days out, and the rightwing asshats are already up to posting their stock responses!

7/05/2005 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger Phil Dillon, Prairie Apologist said...

I live in the Bay Area for a few years when I was in the Air Force and didn't hat it. It was a strange place, but I didn't hate it. I also lived in the NYC area for eight years and absolutely loved it. All that and my guess is that you consider me one of those "right wing asshats."

Just keep something in mind. I left San Francisco to serve in 'Nam. I did it because I loved San Francisco and the people there as much as I loved the people from my home town (Boston).

You can say what you want,but the chips have been down guys like me have always been willing to defend the rights of guys like you. I've got the medals to prove it. I don't think the same can be said of a lot of folks on the left.

7/06/2005 06:33:00 AM  
Blogger Liberal Traitor said...

Phil, you're not one of the asshats. You're rather well spoken, just misguided. For instance, the idea that killing the Vietnamese was somehow protecting Americans is simply ludicrous. Was Vietnam going to attack us or something? We lost that war, they went communist, and not a damn thing happened in the US as a result of that. Bravo for your service and all, but please don't delude yourself that the Vietnam War was worth fighting.

7/06/2005 07:29:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Dillon, Prairie Apologist said...

Vietnam wasn't just about me, or us. I remember the sinking feeling the day that Saigon fell. We abandoned twnety six million Vietnamese to communism.

I've never understood how we could abandon them to a tyranny we would never accept ourselves.

You see, I grew up in the JFK generation. I beleived then, and I believe now, that the American role in the world is to "bear any burden to ensure the success of liberty."

Those words weren't spoken by a Republican. They were spoken by a Democrat. Making "the world safe for democracy" came from the lips of a Deomcrat.

I support the effort in Iraq, not because I love George Bush, but because I believe in the principles of JFK and Woodrow Wilson.

The problem I see in much of the Democratic party's left wing is that they have let their hatred of George Bush trump principle. The best that could be said about such a philosophy is that it is shortsighted.

Finally, if believing in the principles I stated makes me delusional, then I gladly embrace the delusion.

7/06/2005 08:05:00 AM  
Blogger Alice: In Wonderland or Not said...

Makes me wish I was from
San Francisco.
Hope you get it going.

7/06/2005 09:08:00 AM  
Blogger Liberal Traitor said...

Phil, the ideals which you speak of are great in theory, but they tend not to work in practice. Since after WWII, our idea of "defending liberty" in other countries has been to install brutal puppet regimes. It's never been about liberty. It's always been about capitalism. And these two are not interchangable terms, no matter what the libertarians say. If we really believed in liberty, we would not get involved in the affairs of other countries. If they want to go communist, it's a decision that their people have to make. Liberty at gunpoint is no real liberty.

7/06/2005 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger zandperl said...

I'm afraid they hate us Massachusetts-ans nearly as much. Never mind that not all of MA is Boston or liberal-leaning. I do happen to be a liberal, and originally from NYC, but it pisses me off when people typecast me because of where I live. Why is it any more acceptable to do that than to call me a chink, kike, or a mulatto?

Oh, and Phil and Liberal Traitor, speaking of ideals that work in theory but not in practice, I don't see much wrong with communism/socialism in theory, though unfortunately in practice it is usually despotism. "The difference between theory and practice is that in therory, there IS no difference between theory and practice."

7/06/2005 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Phil Dillon, Prairie Apologist said...

I'll take what you had to say at face value. It raises a couple of questions, though. If the majority in this country voted for Saddam would you accept that in San Francisco? Would you operate under the premise that as long as he isn't bothering me, everything is okay?

It also raises the question of the vote. Saddam got 99.99999% of the vote in his elections. Do you seriously believe that the people of Iraq really wanted him? Uncle Joe got lots of "votes" in the U.S.S.R and the favor was returned with the institution of gulags. The kulaks learned that lesson well. Ask the people of the Ukraine about Uncle Joe and they'll tell you all about him. As for the people of South Vietnam, they never elected Uncle Ho or his successors. Maybe you weren't around in 75, but I was. It was North Vietnamese tanks violating the Paris accords that drove down TuDo Street, not flower people throwing rose petals. Ask the the thousands of boat people who were willing to get tinto junks in the South China Sea to escape their "liberators" about that.

You say that liberty only works in theory. I'm hard pressed to believe that, but again I'll take it at face value. Now I can't tell whether your a capitalist or not. But whether or not you are I'd be willing to bet you take full advantage of its rewards, like the American lifestyle, the income, the freedom. I don't want to pre-judge, but what you said raises another couple of questions in my mind. Is it the rewards of capitalism or the risks that bother you most? Do you love capitalism and liberty only until defending it might cost you something?

It also raises another question when it comes to capitalism/communism. How would you respond if the government knocked on your door or sent the storm troopers in to your "digs" to appropriate them for the "people's use?" The question is just rhetorical as far as I'm concerned. I'd be willing to bet you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs, "Send in the marines, send in the guys like Phil, they're taking my stuff and my freedom."

7/06/2005 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger Liberal Traitor said...

Zandperl, I suggest you wear the term "Masshole" like a badge of honor! And I have to agree with you on the whole theory vs. practice thing. Socialism in and of itself is a great idea, yet many of the times it's been tried, it's been combined with totalitarianism, which is never good in theory or practice. The problem is that when the US has intervened in fighting socialism, many times they installed a totalitarian dictator in its stead. Totalitarian capitalism is just as evil as totalitarian socialism.

And Phil, I'm not saying that liberty only works in theory. I'm saying that the idea of the US spreading liberty sounds great in theory, but it is rarely such a great thing in practice. Unless you think that Central American death squads as opposed to democratically elected leftist governments. Or how about the great liberty that Chileans enjoyed under Pinochet, or that Indonesians had with Suharto, or that the Iraqis had under Saddam (let's not forget that he was yet another US Puppet dictator).

As for your first question, the majority of this country elected somebody just as bad as Saddam. Let's look at the similarities, shall we? Both responsible for the death of countless Iraqis. Both are uncompromising and completely uninterested in any sort of bipartisanship. But only one of them actually makes it clear that he's a brutal warmongering dictator while the other claims to be a "compassionate conservative." And San Franciscans are fighting against the Bush regime every single day, whether it be through organizing or fundraising or petitioning or direct action. As Americans, it's our duty to make regime change happen here. We don't want some other country to step in and depose our dictator only to replace him with one more friendly to their corporations' interests.

Your rhetorical question about communism is just that, and is quite the extreme example. I prefer to point toward the social democracies currently in Europe as a better example of successful socialism. But if these government thugs came and nationalized private utilities and healthcare, I'd be a happy camper.

7/06/2005 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger Helen said...

Good luck with this. I recently moved from Manahattan to Vermont. I work in a call center now and a customer from, well, I don't need to mention, actually said to me "I hate your liberal politics up there!". Went to SF only once, for a day, to Jerry Garcia's Memorial. Love it!

7/27/2005 09:22:00 AM  

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